In this episode, Bryn talks to Steve Chalke, Founder of the Oasis Trust, who believes that we need to replace our punitive justice system with one leveraged on compassion, restoration, and hope.

Find out more about the work of The Oasis Trust by going to their website:

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This episode was recorded online on 15th February 2021.

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